Comments on: Re-engaging the Neighborhood http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/ Fearless Evangelism Training and Church Growth in the Americas Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:15:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Scott http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1545 Scott Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:26:33 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-1545 Great post! So the church used an "attractional" to get to "missional!" Common sense tells me making it attractional VERSUS missional, or making them mutually exclusive is wrong. It's not an either/or, it's both/and... I'm not at all surprised to see that churches that really are engaging their communities and reaching people for Christ are doing some of both. Great post!

So the church used an “attractional” to get to “missional!” Common sense tells me making it attractional VERSUS missional, or making them mutually exclusive is wrong. It’s not an either/or, it’s both/and…

I’m not at all surprised to see that churches that really are engaging their communities and reaching people for Christ are doing some of both.

]]> By: EvangelismCoach http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1503 EvangelismCoach Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:25:37 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-1503 @Don Thanks for sharing what your church does. Building relational bridges are still important for attractional models as well as churches working the missional culture. I think healthy churches need both. @Derek Thanks for pointing out the both/and. I've been reading The Tangible kingdom and it contains many of these same themes. Currently planting a church from scratch and working the missional angle as we are still small. @elliot I've seen congregations that won't re-engage. I've seen Pastors try to lead, but they don't want to follow -- one party eventually leaves. I've seen pastors work to help bring the grumblers along, but Crandalls work shows that after the pastor leaves, the church stumbles again. Thanks all for sharing your thoughts. Keep it up . . @Don

Thanks for sharing what your church does. Building relational bridges are still important for attractional models as well as churches working the missional culture. I think healthy churches need both.

@Derek
Thanks for pointing out the both/and. I’ve been reading The Tangible kingdom and it contains many of these same themes. Currently planting a church from scratch and working the missional angle as we are still small.

@elliot
I’ve seen congregations that won’t re-engage. I’ve seen Pastors try to lead, but they don’t want to follow — one party eventually leaves. I’ve seen pastors work to help bring the grumblers along, but Crandalls work shows that after the pastor leaves, the church stumbles again.

Thanks all for sharing your thoughts. Keep it up . .

]]> By: Elliot http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1497 Elliot Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:15:20 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-1497 Makes perfect sense (now here is the "but") What if the congregation isn't willing to re-engage? I see many churches close their doors in my denomination each year because they won't, can't, or say they don't have the "right" pastor (leadership) to do so. Sounds like leadership from within the church (laity) needs to embrace the Holy Spirit's leading? Makes perfect sense (now here is the “but”) What if the congregation isn’t willing to re-engage? I see many churches close their doors in my denomination each year because they won’t, can’t, or say they don’t have the “right” pastor (leadership) to do so. Sounds like leadership from within the church (laity) needs to embrace the Holy Spirit’s leading?

]]> By: Rev Bill » Blog Archive » Transformation Means Re-Engaging The Neighborhood http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1491 Rev Bill » Blog Archive » Transformation Means Re-Engaging The Neighborhood Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:53:26 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-1491 [...] a wonderful article on ways churches can engage their neighborhoods and serve those around them. You can read the article here. While visiting his site browse around awhile — he does some great stuff and has some very [...] [...] a wonderful article on ways churches can engage their neighborhoods and serve those around them. You can read the article here. While visiting his site browse around awhile — he does some great stuff and has some very [...]

]]> By: Derek Iannelli-Smith http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1490 Derek Iannelli-Smith Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:00:46 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-1490 Good article. Reminds me of some other influences recently Tim Chester/Steve Timmis and Frank Viola's work. The total church conference recently done at Kaleo (audios are on the web) addresses this topic very well. It is not either or... it is both... If a 'church' is going to be missional, then I believe they need to get away from the 'come and see' and remember the 'see and go' or as we call it at Oasis.... drink and go... investing in people without an agenda other than to participate in God's plan to move onto the next step takes time. I am not talking about friendship evangelism, I am talking about intentional gospel-centered evangelism. Good article. Reminds me of some other influences recently Tim Chester/Steve Timmis and Frank Viola’s work. The total church conference recently done at Kaleo (audios are on the web) addresses this topic very well. It is not either or… it is both… If a ‘church’ is going to be missional, then I believe they need to get away from the ‘come and see’ and remember the ’see and go’ or as we call it at Oasis…. drink and go… investing in people without an agenda other than to participate in God’s plan to move onto the next step takes time. I am not talking about friendship evangelism, I am talking about intentional gospel-centered evangelism.

]]> By: Don http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 Don Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:51:00 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-1487 Our Chicago suburb requires us to build bridges that people are willing to cross 75% of the new people in our church are unchurched who have been touched through one of our bridge events. We do a combo block/back to school party. It includes live music (80%secular 20% Christian) food and events for the children. We aren't trying to lead them to the Lord (YET) we just want to become part of their lives, which in turn opens door for sharing the gospel. Our Chicago suburb requires us to build bridges that people are willing to cross 75% of the new people in our church are unchurched who have been touched through one of our bridge events.
We do a combo block/back to school party. It includes live music (80%secular 20% Christian) food and events for the children.
We aren’t trying to lead them to the Lord (YET) we just want to become part of their lives, which in turn opens door for sharing the gospel.

]]> By: Todd http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1485 Todd Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:24:12 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-1485 Excellent post. Isreal was God's people- a light to the Gentiles whioh was supposed to draw the nations to Christ. The new Isreal is sent into the nations to bring people to Christ. Thanks. Excellent post. Isreal was God’s people- a light to the Gentiles whioh was supposed to draw the nations to Christ. The new Isreal is sent into the nations to bring people to Christ. Thanks.

]]> By: Darrel Davis http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/re-engaging-the-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-992 Darrel Davis Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:08:06 +0000 http://www.evangelismcoach.org/2008/09/re-engaging-the-neighborhood#comment-992 Chris, I believe churches have to get out of the "If you build it, they will come" mindset. The attractional church usually only pulls in other Christians who are unhappy with their current church. It is not appealing to the lost. The church must go it if it expects the lost to come in. Good post. Chris, I believe churches have to get out of the “If you build it, they will come” mindset. The attractional church usually only pulls in other Christians who are unhappy with their current church. It is not appealing to the lost. The church must go it if it expects the lost to come in. Good post.

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